tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post144741490206025444..comments2024-01-02T09:18:23.893-05:00Comments on Written World: Miss AmericaRagnellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-78147363426286098002012-07-19T18:09:24.323-04:002012-07-19T18:09:24.323-04:00Why not? The original Miss America was an Aryan wo...Why not? The original Miss America was an Aryan woman from the 40's. Her being racist is to be expected.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-69157028169028994372012-07-04T21:25:59.335-04:002012-07-04T21:25:59.335-04:00Except the original was a racist and it makes sens...Except the original was a racist and it makes sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-72698373614699227712012-07-04T21:23:33.639-04:002012-07-04T21:23:33.639-04:00Having read the mini, i gotta say i love the chara...Having read the mini, i gotta say i love the character nad i love that the new miss America is hispanic. Especially since the last Miss America was a racist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-77032692594340303142011-08-25T17:51:39.546-04:002011-08-25T17:51:39.546-04:00It's not about slutshaming or not for me, Ragn...It's not about slutshaming or not for me, Ragnell; it's about hyper-sexualizing young women. Miss America Chavez is a teenager, not an adult; however, she is clothed like an adult female, and she's drawn as a fully (bodily) developed female. Her costume is awesome for a really cool sexually aware impervious to everything super-heroine with AMAZING balance, but Miss America isn't impervious to everything. She has the powers of flight and super-strength, not invincibility. <br /><br />Additionally, the costume's impractical and unsafe for fighting. Those earrings would get ripped out, and the high heels are too high for balance. The belt would do more harm than good, and the pants just aren't good to fight in (camel toe?). It seems like "empowerment" here is an excuse to make a sex object of yet another teenage girl in comics. <br /><br />Additionally, (and I could be wrong about the decade in which Vengeance takes place) is she not supposed to be a modern teenager? I don't know about you, but I've never met a modern teenage girl who would touch that look. It's not current, and it's somewhat adult.<br /><br />Also, I'm super leery of the "shake it like Shakira" comment about a Latin American super-herione. It sounds a little bit like playing into the "Latin American people can dance and are sexy and exotic" stereotype, but I may be reading too much into it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-26647714798436763482011-05-30T23:11:37.348-04:002011-05-30T23:11:37.348-04:00I have no problem with this costume whatsoever. Su...I have no problem with this costume whatsoever. Sure its impractical for fighting crime in, but so is Namors spedo costume, Hercules kilt & any number of other male costumes. Impracitcal costumes are part of the genre.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-79208067035066669382011-05-29T14:02:24.328-04:002011-05-29T14:02:24.328-04:00Sorry Ragnell, I am not going to give her a chance...Sorry Ragnell, I am not going to give her a chance. Took one look at her and thought "not giving her a chance". I know that I should wait and see. Not giving her a chance.<br /><br />No, I can't be shamed into giving her a chance. You know why? Because we have been giving stuff a chance for so long that I feel the pressure should be on the creators and not the audience. <br /><br />Someone should also look into taking the empowerment crutch from these people as well. Creators aren't using that word in good faith anymore. They know they can just shout out "Empowerment!" because they know that word will muddy the waters enough that they can get away and do this crap all over again. <br /><br />I just don't understand why creators feel the need to self sabotage themselves. It's like that person that wakes up bright and early because they have a big day ahead of them and then they fall off their porch and break something because they refuse to tie their shoes. They know they should, but they just don't want to.Anthonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-85754544165123302712011-05-28T19:35:10.349-04:002011-05-28T19:35:10.349-04:00Queerjock if in case your comment was pointed at m...Queerjock if in case your comment was pointed at me. Maybe I'm looking into it, but what I mean is that I'm sick of the disrespect that they portray Madelyne Miss America as an out of touch racist because she was unmercifully killed off decades ago. <br /><br />That brings up a point on why this new Miss America even wants to take her legacy unless she feels she's taking back America from the racists or whatever. <br /><br />It puts a bad taste in my mouth either way like a "Walt Disney is anti-semitic, but we can't prove it, but take our word for it" statement. Miss America a symbol of Golden Age Nazi bashing and female empowerment as a racist doesn't feel true to me. That's just me though.Jimmyhttp://jimmythejivergmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-84419443053861458422011-05-28T14:45:16.499-04:002011-05-28T14:45:16.499-04:00You're right that avoiding the trap of slut sh...You're right that avoiding the trap of slut shaming while criticizing sexual objectification is important, Ragnell. Criticizing the designer for how they designed the character (I still think that outfit would be better for like, clubbing or just going out to hang out than superhero stuff but that's just me) is often more productive than tearing down the character.<br /><br />.. But yeah, why do people keep drawing women standing with their hips cocked to the side?LilithXIVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09409480656836153128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-3692497514320412012011-05-28T13:20:17.449-04:002011-05-28T13:20:17.449-04:00I also have to wonder how much of the criticism is...I also have to wonder how much of the criticism is being directed at the character because she's a person of color.<br /><br />I always side-eye reactions to characters like this a bit.Queerjocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-14382412271225520732011-05-28T11:27:21.100-04:002011-05-28T11:27:21.100-04:00Does indestructibility cover one's genitals, d...Does indestructibility cover one's genitals, do you think? Cos, as I couldn't help mentioning with <a href="http://illustratorclaire.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/miss-america/" rel="nofollow">my redesign</a>, a villain pulling on that thong could give a pretty wicked intimacy burn, if you get my drift.<br /><br />Otherwise: yup - I agree.Clairehttp://www.illustratorclaire.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-50645250827962792712011-05-28T11:08:19.641-04:002011-05-28T11:08:19.641-04:00I'm sorry, but I just can't get over the t...I'm sorry, but I just can't get over the thong. I'm old enough to think that underwear shouldn't be visible.<br /><br />Ick.SallyPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05592635194271250605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-72201402573877223082011-05-28T01:56:06.794-04:002011-05-28T01:56:06.794-04:00I'm still disappointed by the lack of respect ...I'm still disappointed by the lack of respect for the former Miss America and Whizzer for that matter. Roy Thomas really treated them bad for being a "Golden Age Fan" and later writers still tarnish their memory. Sick of legacy characters. That's just me.jimmyhttp://jimmythejivergmail.comnoreply@blogger.com