tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post113642192384211335..comments2024-01-02T09:18:23.893-05:00Comments on Written World: If You Took A Left Turn at the Cotton Candy Stand...Ragnellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1136483694059475042006-01-05T12:54:00.000-05:002006-01-05T12:54:00.000-05:00It is kinda sad ... I thumbed through the issue at...It is kinda sad ... I thumbed through the issue at the comic shoip last week. Apparently, Vicki Vale's personality is so vapid, and her importance to the storyline so nil, that Frank Miller felt the urgency for this approach. So walks around in her lingerie and we get a close-up of her ass because she contributes (from what I could see) NOTHING to the story.<BR/><BR/>She goes to the circus with Bruce Wayne, who abandons her to don his Batman disguise, and off we go with the plot.<BR/><BR/>Some people who whispered that Frank Miller is, these days, all about money. That might explain this scene, if he's getting paid by the page. Vicki's long "soliloquy", which is designed only to provide backstory is .. what? three or four pages?<BR/><BR/>Ten years ago, Miller gave the same background within two panels in Batman: Year One. Reporters follow Bruce Wayne through Gotham International Airport, and a small inset of a television screen informs us that Bruce Wayne -- "Gotham's wealthiest, and best looking, son" -- has returned after several years abroad.<BR/><BR/>No gratuitous butt shots, and YEAR ONE wasn't padded. Miller used four issues of BATMAN to tell YEAR ONE. Today, I suspect that the same story would require TWELVE issues -- more pages, more money for Miller, bigger and thicker trade paperback, bigger & thicker money for Miller.<BR/><BR/>Vicki's ass isn't just pandering ... it's the sign of a guy who is losing his ability to tell powerful stories, so he resorts to gimmicks like this.richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07947857899538327337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1136450120648432262006-01-05T03:35:00.000-05:002006-01-05T03:35:00.000-05:00well I found it panderingThen after #3 and the who...well I found it pandering<BR/><BR/>Then after #3 and the whole "Roaring metal between her legs" bit I'm starting to find it creepy.<BR/><BR/>And I want to have sex with a Flaming skeleton.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1136448704428242932006-01-05T03:11:00.000-05:002006-01-05T03:11:00.000-05:00Oh don't get me wrong. I find it tasteless to the...Oh don't get me wrong. I find it tasteless to the extreme. <BR/><BR/>But since it's not really a part of the mainstream DCU, I don't care that much and find it amusing. :-)<BR/><BR/>Now manga *is* occasionally incredibly tasteless with regards to "fan service", Also it's partially just that in big city Japan, you can find fliers of anime porn on the street. Seriously. It does desensitize one...kalinarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01417686761943716312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1136447941003673202006-01-05T02:59:00.000-05:002006-01-05T02:59:00.000-05:00"You don't even a Lantern butt taking up the entir..."You don't even a Lantern butt taking up the entire panel in lacey panties."<BR/><BR/>Hey, Hal Jordan just back to active duty as a GL, cut the guy some slack. I'm sure he'll get around ti it at some point. ;)James Meeleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15125466138669301618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1136445895622833452006-01-05T02:24:00.000-05:002006-01-05T02:24:00.000-05:00kali -- On reflection, it probably is the Manga is...kali -- On reflection, it probably is the Manga is much worse thing. Miller's Batman is as raunchy as non-Vertigo comics get. You don't even a Lantern butt taking up the entire panel in lacey panties.Ragnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1136442565977883262006-01-05T01:29:00.000-05:002006-01-05T01:29:00.000-05:00I didn't say I was surprised, just creeped out. F...I didn't say I was surprised, just creeped out. Frank Miller strikes me as a dirty old man at his most tame, and I haven't been reading ASBAR so I got the double-whammy of script and panty-shot and the "They let him get away with that?" feeling. *Shudder*<BR/><BR/>Power Girl's breasts were funny, Kyle Rayner's butt is funny. I just don't see the humor here.Ragnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1136441521069564512006-01-05T01:12:00.000-05:002006-01-05T01:12:00.000-05:00Huh, maybe I'm callous, but I think the little bit...Huh, maybe I'm callous, but I think the little bit of script is funny.<BR/><BR/>Maybe it's because manga tends to be much worse, or the fact that I'm known for my love of Kyle Rayner in shredded clothing, but I don't see why this is a shock.<BR/><BR/>We *know* that comics are still primarily written by men. We know that T&A is common. We even know that certain artists kept increasing the size of Power Girl's chest for a joke.<BR/><BR/>Why is it so much worse to hear that certain writers have written it into their scripts. Especially considering that the comic in question isn't considered to be canon in the main DC Universe.<BR/><BR/>Come on, it's Frank Miller. Am I really supposed to be shocked or appalled? Am I really even supposed to be surprised.<BR/><BR/>Instead, I'm just giggling. Shameless pandering amuses me, no matter who it's directed toward.kalinarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01417686761943716312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1136435206649582242006-01-04T23:26:00.000-05:002006-01-04T23:26:00.000-05:00In my case far less likely!In my case far less likely!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com