tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post8309241686462097567..comments2024-01-02T09:18:23.893-05:00Comments on Written World: The Many Loves of John StewartRagnellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-23537977140048703812008-05-09T01:25:00.000-04:002008-05-09T01:25:00.000-04:00LGF -- Y'know, for some reason I always forget Len...LGF -- Y'know, for some reason I always forget Len Wein's writing. I have the same problem when I discuss Wonder Woman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-47880510557297677252008-05-08T20:50:00.000-04:002008-05-08T20:50:00.000-04:00Interesting analysis. Some notes though:It wasn't...Interesting analysis. Some notes though:<BR/><BR/>It wasn't Englehart that introduced the reporter Tawny Young and forgot John didn't wear a mask - it was Len Wein. He also forgot that John and Hal knew each other's identities, so all of a sudden John kept wondering who his predecessor was...when any GL fan worth their salt knew otherwise. Whoops!<BR/><BR/>Wein intended John's tenure to last only until he could resolve the Hal/Carol/GL traingle, so Tawny was never intended as a love interest - just one date is all it was.<BR/><BR/>Wein quit the series a few issues after making John a full-fledged GL, and DC brought in Steve Englehart. Steve changed course and tried to fix everything. He brought in Katma as both trainer and love interest, and decided to have both Hal and John as GLs, which led to the GLC experiment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-87003304786353844972008-05-04T15:19:00.000-04:002008-05-04T15:19:00.000-04:00Re: Katma being coded white . . . I remember back ...Re: Katma being coded white . . . I remember back in the Tawny Young days, that when Katma came to Earth to train John, she used her ring to disguise herself as a black woman to interact with humans. I somewhat recall that her "disguise" was what initially led John to see Katma in a new light, romantically speaking. It's been a long time since those issues, though, so my memory may be playing tricks.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02030030357383147611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-61126858399306366222008-05-02T18:29:00.000-04:002008-05-02T18:29:00.000-04:00I think a bit of the issue is time and space. In ...I think a bit of the issue is time and space. In the end, as much of an equal John is considered to other Green Laterns, he's used more of a guest star or roster-filler than anything else. And part of that is that writers want to focus on the developments they had planned for the Green Lateran books, and probably don't think expanding John's personal life is a high priority in the 22 pages they get every month. <BR/><BR/>So we get an odd compromise of people bite-size characterization bits, like John's one-sentence gay brother. It's better than nothing, but it's also not much else. Personally, I think for this issue to get really addressed he needs another limited series with real consequences attached to it, but DC's probably worried on how it could sell.Danehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01628656388274931787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-50809849235310362522008-04-30T19:14:00.000-04:002008-04-30T19:14:00.000-04:00Well... they're not necessarily lonely. I can see...Well... they're not necessarily lonely. I can see a nice bromance developing between Kyle & Guy. :)<BR/><BR/>And there's only one way I would be okay with Mosaic being a "dream sequence"... that would mean Ch'p is still alive!<BR/><BR/>*sigh<BR/><BR/>Poor, poor Ch'p. I think John is even worse than Matt Murdoch when it comes to people dying around him.Moriartyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10357806029003460697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-60831596892167908172008-04-28T12:29:00.000-04:002008-04-28T12:29:00.000-04:00John's lovelife has been pretty crappy. On the ot...John's lovelife has been pretty crappy. On the other hand ALL of the Green Lanterns seem to have crappy lovelifes. And for the love of GOD, keep Winick as far away from all of them as possible. <BR/><BR/>Heck, at the moment, with the exception of Hal (and isn't it ALWAYS Hal) they are all pretty lonely.SallyPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05592635194271250605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-82778492105050351092008-04-28T12:25:00.000-04:002008-04-28T12:25:00.000-04:00In a fairly recent Batman-Superman story (#28 thro...In a fairly recent <I>Batman-Superman</I> story (#28 through #30?), John is depicted as planning a date with a human black woman who also happens to be a doctor or scientist of some sort. John apparently has tickets to <I>Zumanity</I> in Vegas, Cirque du Soleil's notoriously adult show at the New York, New York casino. Of course, John and the doctor in question get attacked by an alien threat, so the date doesn't occur.Sea-of-Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813600516703661200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-49782033097717294832008-04-28T04:49:00.000-04:002008-04-28T04:49:00.000-04:00Gerard Jones established in Mosaic a grandmother, ...Gerard Jones established in <I>Mosaic</I> a grandmother, an asshole of a grandfather, and that his father I think was a pushy "Study your ass off and make something of yourself" type of parent, and his mother was religious and was sick while he was growing up. I think only the grandparents appeared on panel during a dream sequence (Although it could be argued that all of <I>Mosaic</I> might be a dream sequence -- which would <B>suck</B> because it's the only place where we got to substantially explore John.)<BR/><BR/>Judd Winick established in Vol 3 that he had a gay brother. Referred to once, never named, never shown on panel.<BR/><BR/>Winick also established that he accidentally caused his sister's death as a child, in a story that was not only bad but also completely unnecessary. I mean, after <I>Cosmic Odyssey</I> and Katma's death, does John <I>really</I> need another tragedy to fuck him up?<BR/><BR/><I>Somewhere</I> I got the idea he has a living sister. I don't know who put it in there.<BR/><BR/>Every writer who's handled John has dropped little pieces of his personality and past in the stories to try and flesh out this character because they think he's a cipher who needs details rather than someone who simply needs some exposure, depth, and exploration. t makes him kind of fun, though. Like a puzzle.Ragnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-55902815340017282172008-04-28T03:58:00.000-04:002008-04-28T03:58:00.000-04:00What's John have for a family? Mother, father, sis...What's John have for a family? Mother, father, sister, brother? Or is all of that unestablished, like the rest of his supporting cast?<BR/><BR/>Going from Detroit to Alpha Centauri is a huge leap. I'd be curious to see how that was, or will be, dealt with.david brothershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18052349605421979436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-78334240553164117262008-04-28T01:47:00.000-04:002008-04-28T01:47:00.000-04:00That's all right, John didn't get that first woma...That's all right, John didn't get that first woman's name either. <BR/><BR/>If they want to avoid offending anyone, why not just get John involved with Pieface?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com