tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post115801527637476937..comments2024-01-02T09:18:23.893-05:00Comments on Written World: Black Panther #19Ragnellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158500114997693262006-09-17T09:35:00.000-04:002006-09-17T09:35:00.000-04:00you just made me cry with this post. Why aren't Y...you just made me cry with this post. Why aren't YOU writing that book? damn. DAMN. <BR/><BR/>damn.<BR/><BR/>angry black womanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158288959835840622006-09-14T22:55:00.000-04:002006-09-14T22:55:00.000-04:00Doom does have friends! He just won't admit to hav...Doom does have friends! He just won't admit to having them, cause he's an egomaniac.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158218001165388022006-09-14T03:13:00.000-04:002006-09-14T03:13:00.000-04:00i love this post. i've read it four times.i love this post. i've read it four times.Dean Trippehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04747690659717758337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158188516962047812006-09-13T19:01:00.000-04:002006-09-13T19:01:00.000-04:00Jon -- My main problem is basically #1. Storm doe...Jon -- My main problem is basically #1. Storm does not act this way. She's not coy or cute.Ragnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158117415058319182006-09-12T23:16:00.000-04:002006-09-12T23:16:00.000-04:00Calling a black or native american person a savage...Calling a black or native american person a savage and primitive has a very, very different subtext than calling someone else a savage or primitive. It's been used for ages to devalue the entire race in the name of making another race look good.<BR/><BR/>In fact, it isn't even subtext.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158116716825725852006-09-12T23:05:00.000-04:002006-09-12T23:05:00.000-04:00To be fair, Doom calls everybody savages and primi...To be fair, Doom calls everybody savages and primitives. Except himself.notinthefacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12537680561821564347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158112683885621222006-09-12T21:58:00.000-04:002006-09-12T21:58:00.000-04:00Why sue when you can crush the company beneath you...Why sue when you can crush the company beneath your feet once you conquer the world?<BR/><BR/>"How DARE you call DOOM racist! Some of DOOM'S best friends-- Oh wait, DOOM has no friends. Carry on, minion."Ragnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158112409589302642006-09-12T21:53:00.000-04:002006-09-12T21:53:00.000-04:00You know, on newsarama.com, Doom's portryal as a r...You know, on newsarama.com, Doom's portryal as a racist was the worst moments of that week. In other words, more people were annoyed by a small few lines (that could be easily retconned) of Dr. Doom than the larger problem of Storms character.<BR/><BR/>Of course, it could be because Doom is greater than all the X-Men and Avengers put together...but then I like Doom. He should sue for libel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158104914781407032006-09-12T19:48:00.000-04:002006-09-12T19:48:00.000-04:00While Doom managed to thoroughly thrash T'chala he...<I>While Doom managed to thoroughly thrash T'chala he alway showed him the respect due a fellow monarch.</I><BR/><BR/>Except for the bit where he characterizes T'challa and his people, black africans, as "savages" and "vicous primitives." Granted, he refers to T'challa as a savage with nobility, but you find me one black man who doesn't object to being called a savage or a primitive and I'll show you a black man who has no sense of history.<BR/><BR/>I can provide a scan of the page in question if you want. But, the backstory is there for Doom to say what he said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158103650547444952006-09-12T19:27:00.000-04:002006-09-12T19:27:00.000-04:00spiralsheep: Hey, it worked for John Byrne!spiralsheep: Hey, it worked for John Byrne!notinthefacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12537680561821564347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158098630823606702006-09-12T18:03:00.000-04:002006-09-12T18:03:00.000-04:00I read the damn issue myself this past weekend. An...I read the damn issue myself this past weekend. And it was exactly as stated on the blogs and scans. And I couldn't believe it.<BR/><BR/>My roommate wanted to know why I was shaking in anger and I couldn't explain it. <BR/><BR/>And then as I read your dream, I thought, huh, maybe it'd all been some weird freaky stress related dream. And <EM>then</EM> I thought I got the issue numbers wrong, and that after the laughter over 'kissing Doom', <I>that</I> conversation happened and T'Challa realized he'd been a jerk.<BR/><BR/>Maybe Marvel hopes to inspire us to pool resources together; all the artists and writers we know and start our own comics. Cause damn. Just plain old damn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158091330498185422006-09-12T16:02:00.000-04:002006-09-12T16:02:00.000-04:00And there was no chance I was going to be the diss...And there was no chance I was going to be the dissenting voice commenting on this post.<BR/><BR/>Tragic Fanboy: Doom is a racist... against the entire human race... except himself because he thinks he's better than human... and Reed Richards who Doom probably thinks is less than human.<BR/><BR/>I've decided to retcon Hudlin's out of character Doom as a Doombot which means that I can pretend Ororo has also been replaced by a Doom-built Stormbot and possibly that T'Challa has been replaced by an MartyStubot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158090187392631202006-09-12T15:43:00.000-04:002006-09-12T15:43:00.000-04:00Hudlin's won the trifecta as he got Doom out of ch...Hudlin's won the trifecta as he got Doom out of character, too. Doom and Black Panther first met way back in Astonishing Tales #7 (written by Gerry Conway). While Doom managed to thoroughly thrash T'chala he alway showed him the respect due a fellow monarch. At the end, Doom lets T'chala win out of respect for T'chala's nobility and the greater benefit of keeping him a potential ally. Of course, that's all with the Marvel universe Black Panther and not whatever version Hudlin's writing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158090108824512312006-09-12T15:41:00.000-04:002006-09-12T15:41:00.000-04:00Googum.. you're kidding right? Wakanda ALLREADY ha...Googum.. you're kidding right? Wakanda ALLREADY has it's own weather-control system. I'll have to do some digging, but oddly enough it was eluded to a couple of times when writers were mentioning how advanced Wakanda is.R.Navhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11039953551726189448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158086842036876012006-09-12T14:47:00.000-04:002006-09-12T14:47:00.000-04:00It's like a train wreck, no matter how bad it gets...<I>It's like a train wreck, no matter how bad it gets, I keep reading it.</I> <BR/><BR/>Well, <I>there's</I> your problem, then.<BR/><BR/>(I've got the same problem with <I>Flash</I> right now; I'm giving it 3 more issues and then reassessing after the conclusion of this story. It's a tough decision, since I've been reading Flash comics since 1977, but it's very important to drop what we don't enjoy.)Rob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07331286524477806963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158086170133391792006-09-12T14:36:00.000-04:002006-09-12T14:36:00.000-04:00"It sounds like Hudlin has been writing them both ..."It sounds like Hudlin has been writing them both out of character."<BR/><BR/>...and he's been doing it for 19 isssues now. It seems destroying everything that I loved about one of my favorite characters wasn't enough... It's like a train wreck, no matter how bad it gets, I keep reading it.<BR/><BR/>BTW, has Dr. Doom always been a racist? Evil, Scheming, and Arrogant? Sure? But racial epithets? Did I miss something?Tragic Fanboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13708469796179522000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158082748733615312006-09-12T13:39:00.000-04:002006-09-12T13:39:00.000-04:00Just from the other reviews I'd read on this ish, ...Just from the other reviews I'd read on this ish, I was waiting for the other shoe to drop...still, nice misdirection there.<BR/><BR/>I was kinda hoping Black Panther (who for some reason, is like Marvel Batman now, and not in a good way) was going to take the Mr. Miracle/Big Barda route: Scott knows his wife can bust it up, and can take care of herself, and is probably much better off in a fight than he is. And he's 100% cool with that. It doesn't lessen his contribution or skills or 'manhood' the least little bit. Scott and Barda are a team, and they compliment each other.<BR/><BR/>(Of course, Panther and Storm lately are so "mary-sue'd" that anything one of them can do, the other would have to do better. How many issues until Panther invents his own weather-controller?)googumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17843267619711712271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158079639343507232006-09-12T12:47:00.000-04:002006-09-12T12:47:00.000-04:00Oh Ragnell, you sly minx! I read your review, and...Oh Ragnell, you sly minx! I read your review, and was mentally hitting myself with a teaspoon until I reached the last paragraph and realized that I wasn't in Bizarro world. Yeah, this issue blows chunks.SallyPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05592635194271250605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158073846825147812006-09-12T11:10:00.000-04:002006-09-12T11:10:00.000-04:00I'm told in this issue, Black Panther defeats Doct...I'm told in this issue, Black Panther defeats Doctor Doom by making a better suit of armor.<BR/><BR/>He's such a Mary Sue!R.Navhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11039953551726189448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158073181333284172006-09-12T10:59:00.000-04:002006-09-12T10:59:00.000-04:00Yeah, that was a pretty goofy for Black Panther to...Yeah, that was a pretty goofy for Black Panther to be all "get behind me woman!" while he was fighting Doom. Also - Namor now can control fish like Aquaman, apparently.<BR/><BR/>I was enjoying this book up until this issue. I'm probably going to drop it.Phil Looneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18317406996755270537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158073034927445062006-09-12T10:57:00.000-04:002006-09-12T10:57:00.000-04:00I haven't read Panther since Priest's run, but Dan...I haven't read Panther since Priest's run, but Dan's Panther sounds a lot like the one I remember, who would use every tactical advantage at his disposal. <BR/><BR/>It sounds like Hudlin has been writing them both out of character.Rob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07331286524477806963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158072754583522982006-09-12T10:52:00.000-04:002006-09-12T10:52:00.000-04:00You know, the Black Panther I know, if he was in a...You know, the Black Panther <I>I</I> know, if he was in a fight with Dr. Doom and was married to a woman who can create hurricanes at will...<BR/><BR/>...would consider her a WELCOME ADDITION to the fight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158063932983244592006-09-12T08:25:00.000-04:002006-09-12T08:25:00.000-04:00Ugh, I'm going back to sleep. Wake me up when she ...Ugh, I'm going back to sleep. Wake me up when she starts shanking people in the heart again...Haute Corbeillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07185246237238633338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158057800944913132006-09-12T06:43:00.000-04:002006-09-12T06:43:00.000-04:00I just so totally emailed Storm and told her I wan...I just <I>so totally</I> emailed Storm and told her I want the toaster I gave them as a wedding gift back.Bullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11708103213119467419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1158037686682296192006-09-12T01:08:00.000-04:002006-09-12T01:08:00.000-04:00You're a mean old lady; why did you give us hope o...You're a mean old lady; why did you give us hope only to squash it later with reality?<BR/><BR/>I weep :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com