tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post114414628047967587..comments2024-01-02T09:18:23.893-05:00Comments on Written World: Fan-What?Ragnellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-65647147972358183592010-04-09T06:38:40.402-04:002010-04-09T06:38:40.402-04:00As someone coming to this party about four years l...As someone coming to this party about four years late, I have to say: I have never seen "fangirl" or "fanboy" defined the way you did. Usually, I've seen a modifier in front of them, like the name of a character or series or author or genre or occasionally celebrity. I've never seen them used to denote a fan of comics like that. For that, I've seen "comic-geek." The connotations of "fangirl" you described brings to mind the terms "otaku"(a gender-neutral term) "cosplayer", and "yaoi fangirl"(not as common a phenomenon as many seem to believe. really.) to me, but I grew up in a very geek-friendly environment with a great deal of exposure to anime fan-dom (what can I say? I worked at a con for two years. and lots of guys like manga and lots of girls like the manga that's aimed at guys and contains more explosions than angst). The image you described as "fanboy" I would put "comics" in front and also would describe as "D&D geek" or probably just geek in general. I've been in the anime, manga, and Star Wars fandoms for most of my life and really never use certain terms without modifiers because they're too broad in meaning.Ryorinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02641712282669054837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1161222498223203282006-10-18T21:48:00.000-04:002006-10-18T21:48:00.000-04:00I'm taking back "fangirl"! Fangirl 4 Life!I dunno,...I'm taking back "fangirl"! Fangirl 4 Life!<BR/><BR/>I dunno, this is one of those things where I encourage people who'd dub themselves "equalist" to just go ahead and use "feminist" and let their opinions speak for themselves. Go ahead and use "fangirl" and let people sort you out.<BR/><BR/>Or maybe I just have this urge to type "fanboi". I know. What.megshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17507782207499308746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1144230317479787672006-04-05T05:45:00.000-04:002006-04-05T05:45:00.000-04:00Batman's brain and Flash's body?Good, but I'd rath...Batman's brain and Flash's body?<BR/><BR/>Good, but I'd rather see Superman's disembodied head! All heat vision and super breath... Man, pretty much my dream job for life would be to write 1960s Justice League comics. There's also this one about the Door-Men, who can use Wonder Woman's body to enter any round room...<BR/><BR/>But anyway. A terminology argument. I'd say you can either ignore the term "fangirl" or work on redefining it. <BR/><BR/>I'd opt for option A cause I'm lazy, and I'm way to scripting this story where Wonder Woman and the Atom find these aliens who are actually the living consciousness of Martian Cities...<BR/><BR/><BR/>(Word Verification: Roahr. badass.)MarkAndrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16956940483406724174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1144216089474883852006-04-05T01:48:00.000-04:002006-04-05T01:48:00.000-04:00And all are but aspects of Brahman... "Without any...And all are but aspects of Brahman... <BR/><BR/>"Without any origin or end, Mahadeva (The Great God) Shiva is the supreme Creator of all. The three eyed Lord, Shiva is known by a thousand name and is worshiped in bodied, bodiless, Aum-kar and Linga forms. Mahadeva is full of mysteries. All the great saints, devotees, philosophers, teachers, preachers, yogis and even Gods failed to unveil all about him. In his popular aspect, Rudra is a member of triad, along with Brahma and Vishnu. This Triad form the top most group that controls all the aspects of the universe. But in truth, Shiva is the supreme creator of all – even the Triad."<BR/><BR/>"To Create the Universe, Lord Shiva separated his power (Shakti) from himself. Shiva represents the Masculine power, while Shakti the feminine. Since both masculine (Shiva) and feminine (Shakti) are part of him, shiva is known as Ardh-Nar-Nari-shwar (God who his half male and half female)."<BR/><BR/>The point being, indeed, why the continual artificial separation of male (post-Mahadeva Shiva)/female (post-Mahadeva Shakti). Not to argue the finer points of literal interpretation. Can't we move beyond the surface of gender and perceive the sameness rather than dwelling upon the outward difference--which is what I seem to think the Hermit Queen's essay was attempting to touch upon?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1144208699300170012006-04-04T23:44:00.000-04:002006-04-04T23:44:00.000-04:00Uh, no, Brahma was the creator, Krishna was the pr...Uh, no, Brahma was the creator, Krishna was the protector, Shiva (a guy) was the destroyer.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14772087090448461047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1144206703554028472006-04-04T23:11:00.000-04:002006-04-04T23:11:00.000-04:00This is a conundrum. I'm definitely there with you...This is a conundrum. I'm definitely there with you in the Guy vs. Kyle thing... my usual reaction to "fanboy" nonsense like gore and horror and blood and stuff is "Ew" but that's also my response to "My Pretty Pony" and "Sailor Moon"...<BR/><BR/>And I loves me some "Conan" but don't own a sword and wouldn't wave it around if I did...<BR/><BR/>Wasn't Shiva also the "Creator of worlds"? I fear that is too oft forgotten of late, which is sad. Sci fi of late seems to focus on the blow up real gud, instead of the fragile and precious idea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1144204323120066912006-04-04T22:32:00.000-04:002006-04-04T22:32:00.000-04:00Fangirl-- I embrace it like I do geek, nerd, and o...Fangirl-- I embrace it like I do geek, nerd, and other terms that could be used in a deragatory way, but if you call yourself them first...you own it. <BR/>Considering at the con I can be a fangirl, and not the alternative for women, a booth bitch...Your everloving redhead fangirl here.RedheadFangirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03130452058774732168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1144187666422348752006-04-04T17:54:00.000-04:002006-04-04T17:54:00.000-04:00So who won? Kyle or Guy?ummm, oh yeah. Geek works ...So who won? Kyle or Guy?<BR/><BR/>ummm, oh yeah. Geek works for me too.Marc Burkhardthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06949686463975572297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1144182553596917062006-04-04T16:29:00.000-04:002006-04-04T16:29:00.000-04:00I say we replace the terms with "fanbrat", "fantwi...I say we replace the terms with "fanbrat", "fantwit", <BR/>"FANatic" and "FANtastically involved".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1144170925810045282006-04-04T13:15:00.000-04:002006-04-04T13:15:00.000-04:00I love that, nine times out of ten, if I comment o...I love that, nine times out of ten, if I comment on the Absorbacon, the thread just dies. <BR/><BR/>...oh, right, gender descriptors. How do you feel about "girl drinks"? Because I'll pound about forty of anything with a wee little umbrella in it, connotation be damned.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15681540647028985792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1144170386017156742006-04-04T13:06:00.000-04:002006-04-04T13:06:00.000-04:00I have as much Manga as I do Comics.I'm not a real...I have as much Manga as I do Comics.<BR/><BR/>I'm not a real fan of the Angst though. More of a romance reader myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1144160908163152312006-04-04T10:28:00.000-04:002006-04-04T10:28:00.000-04:00Just shows the general uselessness of gendered des...Just shows the general uselessness of gendered descriptors, I guess. The problem is, though, that you can't really just refer to everybody as "fan" as a gender-neutral descriptor because the denotative meaning would just default to what we call a fanboy now, in the way that supposedly gender-neutral terms always default to the male. But you can't really replace it with something else like "enthusiast" or anything, because it just comes off as a euphemism for fanboy, and nobody likes a euphemism.<BR/><BR/>I guess until a better term comes along, I'm just "into comics."Haute Corbeillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07185246237238633338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1144159816548227072006-04-04T10:10:00.000-04:002006-04-04T10:10:00.000-04:00Interesting. This may be generational. When I wa...Interesting. This may be generational. When I was very active with Friends of Lulu and hitting the conventions pretty heavily, many of us thought of ourselves as "fangirls" (or even "semipro-girls") because we were basically women who liked to read comics. In truth we were much more "fanwomen" then "fangirls" but we accepted the equivalency thing even though, by and large, fangirls did seem rather more mature in terms of social skills than fanboys. It's interesting how it's changed in the last decade! I kind of think of today's fangirls as "chibi fangirls." :)Elaynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15009119466346396986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1144147857927680082006-04-04T06:50:00.000-04:002006-04-04T06:50:00.000-04:00Hmm, does that mean you want to rename WFA?Sorry, ...Hmm, does that mean you want to rename WFA?<BR/><BR/>Sorry, I'll comment with more substance after my brain's recovered from the swiss cheesing caused by this darn report...kalinarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01417686761943716312noreply@blogger.com