tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post114319785084712479..comments2024-01-02T09:18:23.893-05:00Comments on Written World: The Dumbest Man in the DCURagnellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-36870426504089627652007-06-23T02:03:00.000-04:002007-06-23T02:03:00.000-04:00What Dinah sees in Ollie is obviously the Ollie th...What Dinah sees in Ollie is obviously the Ollie that existed before Winick decided to toss out every bit of existing characterisation in order to turn him into somebody that couldn't keep his pants on or take responsibility for anything at all.<BR/><BR/>As to why Ollie was too blind to figure out what Roy was trying to tell him? Like most of the non-drug using public at the time the story was written, he thought addicts were weak - that it was some moral failing on their part that made them get hooked on their poison of choice. Meanwhile, he was blinded by the ideal vision of his sidekick he'd been carrying around, of somebody who was too strong, capable and smart to get into something as stupid and self-defeating as drugs. When he was forced to see the reality of Roy's situation, his inability to reconcile what he thought about Roy with what he thought about junkies made him turn into a jackass, rather than offer the help his ward so desperately needed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-75481490553255551652007-06-18T03:58:00.000-04:002007-06-18T03:58:00.000-04:00G. Bob, if you had the most powerful weapon in the...G. Bob, if you had the most powerful weapon in the universe you'd use it to reheat Mighty Taco and cheat at poker. <BR/><BR/>Ollie is a jerk, that's a fact. What Dinah sees in him I'll never know. But being a lower scale of jerk (read as jerk that dosn't have a JLA signal device) I'm grateful that Ollie can still hit above his weight class (Dinah). It means I still have hope. <BR/><BR/>Who's smarter, Hal or Ollie? That's a tough one. Who's smarter, Hal, Ollie or Barda? That's easy.Michael Strausshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13554036620025731552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1143452638283441612006-03-27T04:43:00.000-05:002006-03-27T04:43:00.000-05:00You pity Roy for being a superhumanly quick archer...You pity Roy for being a superhumanly quick archer?<BR/><BR/>You know who else did that? The Nazis.<BR/><BR/>My verification word was "Slennda". Expect to see it as a brand of reduced-fat butter or something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1143350255235266782006-03-26T00:17:00.000-05:002006-03-26T00:17:00.000-05:00Scipio -- Seriously?Wow. Poor Roy.Scipio -- Seriously?<BR/><BR/>Wow. Poor Roy.Ragnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1143305628481247802006-03-25T11:53:00.000-05:002006-03-25T11:53:00.000-05:00He was called "Speedy" because his expertise was m...He was called "Speedy" because his expertise was more in the rapidity of his shots than their pinpoint accuracy.<BR/><BR/>That, and he ran track. Really.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1143290817726023242006-03-25T07:46:00.000-05:002006-03-25T07:46:00.000-05:00Shelly -- I find Ollie a lot more fun when it's a ...Shelly -- I find Ollie a lot more fun when it's a combination of the two. I do find Roy a hell of a lot more likeable after that story, though.<BR/><BR/>I haven't finished reading the run yet. I'm hoping for more Nazi commentary from him. I badly want to see something like this exchange:<BR/><BR/>"Do you know who <B>else</B> used pasteurized milk, Hal?"<BR/>"*Sigh* The Nazis, Ollie?"<BR/>"That's right, the Nazis!"Ragnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1143257200362670602006-03-24T22:26:00.000-05:002006-03-24T22:26:00.000-05:00I still love that series and the Roy drug two-part...I still love that series and the Roy drug two-parter remains my fav comic book story.<BR/><BR/>There's a difference between stupidity and denial. Ollie was and remains a master of denial.ShellyShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14183404615688013084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1143247274447759632006-03-24T19:41:00.000-05:002006-03-24T19:41:00.000-05:00I re-read "The Archer's Quest" a few weeks ago and...I re-read "The Archer's Quest" a few weeks ago and thought the relationship between Ollie and Roy was pretty well done. Of course, it ends with Ollie realizing he needs to spend time with his biological son....<BR/><BR/>Yeah, Roy's confession is pretty obvious, and has always been such to me. If I were inclined to defend Ollie, I might wonder if Roy was college-age (like Dick Grayson) at the time, and therefore more of a young adult. Still, the point is not Roy being old enough to make his own decisions, the point is his feeling neglected by Ollie.<BR/><BR/>And yeah, Ollie as written by Denny O'Neil does sound like the Chewlie's Gum salesman from <EM>Clerks</EM>. (Oddly enough, I wasn't thinking of the Kevin Smith connection when I wrote that....)Tom Bonduranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07209820912557263080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1143227704300580242006-03-24T14:15:00.000-05:002006-03-24T14:15:00.000-05:00Ollie's behavior when written by Brad Meltzer in p...Ollie's behavior when written by Brad Meltzer in particular makes him look like a complete tool. I like the character, but I wouldn't say he's been written well for the majority of his existence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1143225895689393512006-03-24T13:44:00.000-05:002006-03-24T13:44:00.000-05:00I always held Ollie responsible for Parallax too. ...I always held Ollie responsible for Parallax too. All those years of self-confidence gone in a panel or two...<BR/><BR/>Jerk. Although I still like Ollie, for some reason I can't comprehend.Marc Burkhardthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06949686463975572297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1143198444068103872006-03-24T06:07:00.000-05:002006-03-24T06:07:00.000-05:00I actually think Parallax is Ollie's fault. Not b...I actually think Parallax is Ollie's fault. Not because he tried to open Hal's mind and teach him about the world, but because he eroded Hal's self-confidence with endless comparisons to the Nazis.Ragnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00373059673228550524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16538843.post-1143198230819173602006-03-24T06:03:00.000-05:002006-03-24T06:03:00.000-05:00heck, it's Ollie's fault Guy ended up...Guy, reall...heck, it's Ollie's fault Guy ended up...Guy, really. I'm gonna blog about that eventually.kalinarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01417686761943716312noreply@blogger.com